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Occupy hangover for cities, protesters

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Los Angeles police officers cleared out the Occupy LA encampment early Tuesday morning. KNBC-TV reports.

After a long night for police and protesters, Occupy encampments in Los Angeles and Philadelphia were empty Wednesday morning. The cities were dealing with the?aftermath of the two-month occupations — legal battles and park clean-up. And though the mass roundup in Los Angeles remained largely nonviolent, it sparked debate over whether jail officials were being unnecessarily punitive.

The Los Angeles police worked throughout the night to process the 292 people arrested, all but two of whom who were booked for refusing to leave City Hall and nearby intersections after the city declared those to be unlawful assemblies. Bail for the misdemeanor charges?was set at $5,000 each.

Masked sanitation workers hauled away 25 tons of debris from the lawns around Los Angeles City Hall after police raided the protesters’ camp in the middle of the night and arrested more than 300 people.

In Philadelphia, dozens of police patrolled a plaza outside City Hall after sweeping it of demonstrators and arresting 50.

Mass arrest
Because of the large number of arrests in Los Angeles, protesters were taken to three different jail facilities for booking, and spokesmen who were reached said they did not know how many remained in custody at 2 p.m. PST.

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A bail bondsman in Los Angeles said that?he had received three calls from family members on behalf of protesters, but that he couldn’t help until they were completely processed. He said that could take up to 24 hours.

“We are not able to move forward on these bonds is because they are still processing people in,” said Greg Rynerson, an owner of Rynerson’s Bail Bonds. The procedures — getting fingerprinted, photographed, run through background checks — normally take one to six hours after arrest, he said.

“But when you have this kind of volume, I imagine the jail staff is completely overwhelmed,” he said.

By accounts from both sides, the police operation in Los Angeles remained largely peaceful. There was one arrest for interfering with a law enforcement officer and one for battery on a police officer, according to LAPD public information officer Andrew Smith.

“The people who were arrested pretty much were volunteers to be arrested — as they have at other rallies,” Smith said.

At a news conference Wednesday morning, Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck proclaimed his officers’ operation a success.

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A Los Angeles police officer walks through the vacated site of Occupy LA outside City Hall on Wednesday. Demonstrators were camped here for two months to protest economic inequality and financial system excesses.

“The world was watching… and what the world saw was an elegant operational plan that was brilliantly executed by America’s finest police force,” Beck said.

NBC Los Angeles reported that the final holdouts at the encampment — a dog and three people in a tree house — were removed by officers using a Bomb Assault Tactical Control Assessment Tool — basically a souped-up forklift.

The operation might help?Los Angeles police?shed their bad reputation for abuse.

“On Los Angeles — it is no longer the most violent police force in America,” said attorney Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a non-profit human rights litigation organization in New York.The National Lawyers Guild, which has been supporting the Occupy protesters, condemned the arrests, peaceful or not.

LA police: ‘Brilliantly executed’ raid on Occupy camp

“The Los Angeles Police Department is deliberately refusing to release anyone arrested in the Occupy raids with a notice to appear,” said Carol Sobel, NLG board member. “The city is holding them in jail on $5,000 bail until they can be arraigned by a judge, which can take up to 48 hours. This punishes people for exercising their First Amendment rights.”

Protesters posting on the Occupy Los Angeles?website disagreed about whether the police action was peaceful. Participants were urging protesters to send in raw video footage they collected to document alleged abuses.

There have been no formal complaints about police treatment in the action, said Bruce Borihanh, an?LAPD spokesman.

Looking ahead, the city of Los Angeles was dusting off a landscaping plan for the park around city hall, timely grounds work that will effectively prevent people from using it, according to a senior city hall staffer who said was not authorized as a spokesperson.

What’s next for occupiers?
Protesters across the nation were pondering how to proceed with the movement’s “occupation” phase ending.

In the past few weeks, police broke up encampments in other cities as Portland, Ore., Oakland, Calif., and New York, where the sit-down protests against social inequality and corporate excesses began in mid-September, The Associated Press reported.

Demonstrators are still at it in places like Boston and Washington, which each had encampments of about 100 tents Wednesday. Dozens of protesters are fighting eviction from a community college campus in Seattle.

Police clear Los Angeles and Philadelphia encampments. NBC’s Chris Clackum reports.

The camps may bloom again in the spring, organizers told the?AP, and next summer could bring huge demonstrations at the Republican and Democratic presidential nominating conventions, when the whole world is watching. But for now they are promoting dozens of smaller actions, such as picketing the president in New York and staging sit-ins at homes marked for foreclosure.

“We intend to use this for what it is — basically six months to get our feet underneath us, to get strong,” said Phil Striegel, a community activist in San Francisco.

Protesters elsewhere also refuse to concede defeat.

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In New York City on Wednesday evening, groups of marchers threaded their way through traffic to demonstrate at the Sheraton Hotel, where President Barack Obama was due to speak. They included a group of “peace grannies,” people playing drums and other instruments, and others carrying American flags and Occupy signs.?

Protesters in Philadelphia planned a march from the city’s well-to-do Rittenhouse Square to police headquarters Wednesday afternoon and also called for a “victory march” for Friday or Saturday, the AP reported.

“Occupy Philly is alive and well,” said Katonya Mosley, a member of the group’s legal collective. She said members have been communicating via list serves, text messages and email and planned to continue meeting in cafes and other spaces. Local groups have also offered to donate space for the protesters to continue meeting, Mosley said.

While one faction received a permit for a scaled-down protest across the street, she said, Occupy Philadelphia as a whole hasn’t decided whether to go that route. The city has said any new permit would include a ban on camping.

In St. Louis, protesters whose camp was broken up by police on Nov. 12 planned to march to the Federal Reserve Bank office on Thursday. John Mills, a technical writer, called the dissolution of the camp a minor setback.

“It’s dampened some spirits, but I think people are just as passionate, just as excited and just as ready for change as they were before,” Mills said.

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Protesters advocate making student loan debt disappear

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NEW YORK?— As President Barack Obama announces plans to ease repayment of student loan debt, some in the “Occupy” protest movement are agitating for a far more radical solution: debt forgiveness or a mass payment stoppage.

While economists say there is little chance that such tactics could succeed, the fact that they are even being talked about — including the recent introduction of a congressional resolution calling for student loan forgiveness — shows the depth of the frustration and anger brewing over what is cumulatively a crushing debt load for U.S. students and graduates.

At a gathering last week in a public atrium a few blocks from the square that is home to the Occupy Wall Street encampment, New York University professor Andrew Ross led a discussion about the burden of student loan debt — now estimated to be between $550 billion and $829 billion — and proposed a radical solution: “A Pledge of Refusal.” The idea is that protesters would sign a pledge to stop making payments on their student loans as soon as 1 million had joined in making the pledge.

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Ross told the crowd of about 50 people — ranging from current students to long-ago graduates — that while individuals are subject to heavy financial penalties if they stop paying on their student loans, a mass action by 1 million would make the banks take notice.

“There is a lot of talk about student debt, but no one takes any action, and that’s what Occupy Wall Street is about,” the professor of social and cultural analysis said.

‘It’s just immoral’
Ross acknowledged the irony of protesting against one of the main sources of his salary but added, “I feel very bad that my salary has actually been financed (by these debts).? … To me it is just heartbreaking to see my students carry so much debt. It’s just immoral.”

While Ross’s effort is in the early stages, the idea of student loan forgiveness has gained a substantial following, based in part on the argument that such a move would have a substantial economic stimulus effect.

Robert Applebaum, a 37-year-old lawyer who graduated from Fordham Law School in New York City in 1998 with about $65,000 in debt, is the creator of ForgiveStudentLoanDebt.com. He said the website grew out of a proposal he first posted on Facebook in 2009 speculating on the economic impact there would be if student loan debtors suddenly had hundreds of dollars a month to spend. Within weeks, the post went viral and he had 300,000 “likes” on Facebook, he said.

Applebaum’s idea was born out of painful experience. He said he began championing loan forgiveness after going to work as an assistant district attorney in Brooklyn and realizing he could either pay his rent or make his payments on his student loans.? He said he chose to put his loans in “forbearance” — an agreement between the lender and the borrower that prevents a declaration of default but doesn’t prevent the continued accrual of interest — until he left the DA’s office in 2004. After making his loan payments every month since then, his debt today stands at $88,000.

“I welcome the Occupy protests,” Applebaum said. “I think it’s long overdue, and I think it’s wonderful that people are finally learning to speak up against the raping and pillaging of our country for the last 30 years. No other issue really highlights how badly that’s been done to the middle class than the issue of student debt.”

He acknowledges that the proposal to forgive student loan debt is “intentionally provocative and dramatic to focus people on the problem.”?

‘With you for life’
“Your student loans are with you for life — both federal and private loans,” he said. “There is no recourse for student loan borrowers if they run into trouble. The only recourse they have is to put the loans into forbearance, like I had to do, or economic deferment.”?

He was referring to the fact that student loans are very difficult to discharge through bankruptcy. And since they are federally guaranteed, a collection agency can take payments directly from paychecks, tax refunds, even Social Security payments. There is no statute of limitations on student loans: The government will get its money back. And the student who defaults has his or her credit ruined and still has to repay the principal, plus interest and fees from the collection agency.

Applebaum’s campaign has struck a chord. More than 600,000 people have signed his online petition in support of student loan forgiveness. He also received support from an unlikely corner this summer when Rep. Hansen Clarke, D-Mich., introduced a resolution in the House urging student loan forgiveness as a means of economic stimulus.

Statistics show why the issue has such resonance.

The total student-loan debt in the United States is at a historic high, $550 billion, according to a recent report by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. The FinAid.org website, which tracks information on financial aid, estimates the figure is even higher — $829.8 billion — and recently passed the amount of credit card debt owed by Americans.

Approximately 65 percent of students graduating after four years with a bachelor’s degree in 2007-2008 had some debt, according to FinAid.org. The median cumulative debt for those graduating with a bachelor’s degree was about $20,000 in 2007-08 — but up to 10 percent graduated with $40,000 or more in debt, it said.

And given the tough job market, more people are defaulting on those loans. A total of 8.8 percent of all student loan borrowers defaulted on their loans during the 2009 fiscal year, up from 7.0 percent in 2008, according to data released by the Department of Education in September. The problem was particularly bad at for-profit colleges and universities, which tend to serve low-income students. The default rate for for-profits rose sharply from 11.6 percent in 2008 to 15 percent in 2009.

Still, most economists see little chance of the federal government embracing student loan forgiveness at a time when it is wrestling with a debt crisis.

“For the younger age group, this is the equivalent of being underwater on your mortgage,” said Isabel V. Sawhill, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. “… But the problems with just forgiving are the same is in the case of the mortgage story.

“If some people continue to pay their student loans back and other people don’t, the people who are still paying will be very angry and won’t feel like that was fair at all. … And where would you draw the line? Would you say, we are going to do it just for people that are this age or in this situation, but not for others?”

She also said that forgiveness would send a shock wave through the banking system, even though the loans are federally guaranteed.

“I realize no one is feeling particularly sympathetic toward financial institutions these days, but … we do have to worry about the systemic effects.”

At last week’s Occupy Wall Street gathering devoted to student loan debt, few of those engaged in discussing possible demands for reform appeared to be too worried about what the ripple effects might be.

Debate over best approach for reform
The group debated the idea and tossed out alternative solutions like insisting on “reasonable” tuition, abolishing for-profit schools, reforming the current system or even setting up an escrow account for students to pay into until the system is reformed. There was consensus on one issue:? When one person asked if the group considered education to be a “right” or a “privilege,” there was a wave of “twinkle” hand gestures from the crowd (an upward wiggling of fingers) to show that they agreed education was a “right.”

The broad appeal of the movement was illustrated by one passer-by who stopped to listen to the discussion.

“I married someone who had student loan debt, so by default that’s become part of my life now,” said David Solomon, wearing a button-down shirt and raincoat.

Solomon, a 27-year-old who works in tech support and lives in Sunset Park, Brooklyn, said he and his wife met at New York University, where they both went as undergrads. His tuition was paid for, but his wife took out student loans to pay for school.? They currently pay about $400 a month in loan fees on her $150,000 in debt because they had worked out some deferments, but he said that will rise to approximately $1,100 a month by September 2012.

“She had been interested in getting a house and we looked at the numbers,” said Solomon. “But that’s just not going to happen — not anytime soon, at least.”

Solomon indicated he wasn’t ready to take to the streets just yet, but he believes the “Occupy” protest has seized upon an issue that has not been taken seriously, despite the adverse impact it is having on so many lives.

“I haven’t been to any of the Wall Street stuff yet, (but) this seems very interesting,” he said. “The portrayal I’ve seen so far in the media, to be honest, is that it’s just a bunch of dirty hippies who don’t know anything. That is obviously not the case. There are people here having an intelligent discussion about a problem, and they know what they are talking about.”

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Atlanta, Oakland protesters face off with police

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Police moved into a downtown Atlanta park and arrested around 50 Occupy Wall Street protesters who had been encamped there for about two weeks Wednesday, while across the country in Oakland, Calif., officers in riot gear stood watch after clashes there with demonstrators overnight.

Oakland demonstrators vowed on Wednesday to return to their protest site just hours after police cleared hundreds of people from the streets with tear gas and bean bag rounds. The city had erected a chain-link fence around the plaza in the morning, and workers were mowing the grass and sweeping up remnants of the encampment that was dismantled the day before. After the encampment was cleared Tuesday, protesters began marching toward City Hall in an attempt to re-establish a presence in the area of the disbanded camp.

Officers also fired beanbag rounds, clearing out the encampment of protesters in less than an hour.

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The site was among numerous camps that have sprung up around the country as protesters rally against what they see as corporate greed and a wide range of other economic issues. The protests have attracted a wide range of people, including college students looking for work and the homeless.

Video: Police fire tear gas on Oakland protesters (on this page)

Meanwhile, police on Wednesday closed the downtown Atlanta park, where police arrested dozens. Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed said in a statement that the arrests were made after protesters at Woodruff Park moved from peacefully demonstrating to “increasingly aggressive actions” in recent days.

Reed said one man had walked through the park with an assault rifle, and demonstrators had inserted wire hangers into electrical sockets to create additional power sources. Authorities did not say how long the park would remain closed.

Many gathered in the center of the park, locking arms, and sang “We Shall Overcome,” until police led them out, one-by-one to waiting buses. Some were dragged out while others left on foot, handcuffed with plastic ties.

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Police included SWAT teams in riot gear, dozens of officers on motorcycles and several on horseback. By about 1:30 a.m. Wednesday the park was mostly cleared of protesters. Organizers had urged protesters to return in the morning, but by 8:30 a.m. it was still largely empty, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported on its website.

The Occupy protests over economic inequality have spread from a single camp in New York City to cities across the United States and beyond since mid-September, overlapping with similar, earlier protests in Europe. An attempt earlier this month to clean the New York site, which protesters there feared was a tactic to shut them down, ended with authorities backing off.

Georgia State Sen. Vincent Fort was among those arrested and had come to the park in support of the protesters in recent days. He said the police presence was “overkill.”

“He’s using all these resources … This is the most peaceful place in Georgia,” Fort said, referring to Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed. “At the urging of the business community, he’s moving people out. Shame on him.”

Reed said that the protests cost the city about $300,000, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.?

Some protesters could be overheard saying they would return to the park at 6 a.m. Wednesday, when it would be legal for them to be there. TV images showed the number of police far outnumbering the protesters.

Scuffles with police
Oakland demonstrators vowed to return as well.

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The number of protesters diminished with each round of gas, and by early Wednesday there were just a few dozen at the site of the clashes.

The last skirmish there Tuesday night came around 11:15 PT in front of City Hall, where a haze of chemical smoke still hung in the air. Earlier in the evening, the crowd had numbered around 1,000, according to SFGate.com. BART closed Oakland’s 12th Street station because of tear gas deployment, KNTV reported.

Police established a presence in a plaza where a pre-dawn raid Tuesday dismantled an encampment of Occupy Wall Street protesters that had dominated the area for more than two weeks.

Authorities removed about 170 demonstrators who had been staying in the area overnight after repeatedly being warned that such a camp was illegal and they faced arrest by remaining. City officials said 97 people were arrested in the morning raid.

The first evening scuffle broke out after several hundred people made their way back to City Hall in an attempt to re-establish a presence in the area of the disbanded camp.

The protesters had gathered at a downtown library, marched toward City Hall and ultimately were met by police officers in riot gear. Several small skirmishes broke out and officers cleared the area by firing tear gas.

Video: Police in riot gear clear Occupy Oakland

The scene has repeated itself several times since. But each time officers move to disperse the crowd, protesters quickly gather again in assemblies that authorities have declared illegal. Tensions rise as protesters edge closer to police line and climax when someone throws a bottle or rock and authorities response with volleys of gas.

Police have denied reports that they used flash bang canisters to help break up the crowds, saying the loud noises came from large firecrackers thrown at police by protesters.

Protesters defiant
Helicopters scanned the area late Tuesday and scores of officers wearing helmets and carrying clubs patrolled the streets. Fire crews responded to small blazes in trash containers.

Protesters moved about uneasily even as one used a bull horn to express his resolve.

“This movement is more than just the people versus the police,” Mario Fernandez said. “It’s about the people trying to have their rights to basic services.”

He added, “This crowd isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.”

Acting Police Chief Howard Jordan told reporters at a late night news conference that authorities had no other choice, saying the protesters were throwing rocks and bottles at officers.

“We had to deploy gas to stop the crowd,” he said, according to a KCBS report.

City officials say that two officers were injured. At least five protesters were arrested and several others injured in the evening clashes.

In Oakland, tensions between the city and protesters have been escalating since last week as officials complained about what they described as deteriorating safety, sanitation and health issues at the site of the dismantled camp.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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